UPDATE: Three Taken from Pleasanton Home Tagged "Unsafe"

Neighbors say they have been concerned about the home for years.

Three people were reportedly removed from an Orangewood Court home tagged unsafe by city officials on Sunday night.

Pleasanton Police got a call about suspicious circumstances at the home on Sunday, Sgt. Julie Fragomeli said.

"Neighbors called because they saw people coming and going from the home that was supposed to be unoccupied and were not sure if it was the homeowner or not," said Fragomeli. "Officers went to investigate and contacted a female who was later arrested for drug related charges. Officers also smelled a strong odor of chemicals from the driveway."

Fragomeli said officers went into the back yard and saw a large number of chemicals on the property.

"It initially appeared to be a methamphetamine lab, so we backed out, secured the property and asked the fire department to help," she said. "The fire department called in a Hazmat team based on the suspicion that the chemicals were part of a 'stale meth lab' as some of the chemicals were 'precursors' to the manufacturing of methamphetamine. There was no heat source to the lab so we held the position and contacted the Alameda County District Attorney's Office who contacted the Drug Enforcement Agency. The DEA sent out a chemist to the location after we obtained a search warrant for the premises. The chemist determined there were years of chemical accumulation on the property but not enough to deem it an 'active' lab."

Fragomeli says two people were taken from the property but were later released.

The single-family house, off Foothill Road near Lydiksen Elementary School, was red tagged as "unsafe" by authorities, according to postings left on the home's front door.

One neighbor, who asked to remain anonymous, said area residents have worried for years about the cluttered property.

"Neighbors have complained for years about the eyesore," the individual said. "Neighbors are concerned about safety. It has been getting progressively worse for years. Chemicals, car parts. It is like a junk yard."

Patch will update the story as we get more information.

Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 02:11 PM
@Autumn: The article says "Three people were reportedly removed from an Orangewood Court home tagged unsafe by Pleasanton Police on Sunday night." No where did it say tagged by the city.
Autumn Johnson (Editor) September 18, 2012 at 04:48 PM
@Barry: I am clarifying for you.
Lorraine Peters September 18, 2012 at 05:46 PM
This home has been a blight on the neighborhood for about 15 years. The home was tagged as unsafe almost a year ago as it is unsafe to occupy and the owner has been unwilling/unable to comply with making the home safe. It is impossible from the street to fully appreciate the depth to which this home has been left to fall apart. The city has bent over backwards to work with the homeowner
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 07:03 PM
Say for instance the nieghbors in this area don't like to see what the home owner is doing with the property and they complain to "Code Enforcement", C.E. would send out an officer to contact the home owner and issue citations for City violations. The home owner has two options at this point when dealing with code enforcement, they could enter into a contract with the city to correct the problems or refuse to enter into a contract. If they chose to not enter into contract the C.E. officer will issue a citation with or without the consent of the home owner compelling them to comply with city ordinances. Once a citation has been issued the home owner must appear in court, in court it will be up to the "City" to prove to the court the home owner is under contract with the city to adhere to their authority. Thus far if the home owner understands contract law no city has been able to prove their case. The only other option for the neighborhood would be to file a complaint to the building inspectors office as the property displays hazardous material and is unsafe for the surrounding neighborhood from the complainants. The building inspectors office would send out an agent "Credentialed" with Hazmat endorsements as a certified inspector with the State and City. When the inspector arrives to inspect the property the "Owner" has a choice to either allow the inspection "enters into a contract" or to tell the inspector to leave the property. Contact Law is very powerful!
Gina J September 18, 2012 at 07:10 PM
I think that these pictures of this home posted on this news site is tasteless and inappropriate. Not because I want to portray Pleasanton as some kind of lovely Land of Ozzie & Harriett, but because, lets just kick the poor people in the teeth and publicly humiliate them additionally when they couldn't be anymore down and out. I am ashamed of the society amongtst those that I Live. How about this news site telling of a family in need, before they were evicted and people coming together to help these unfortunate souls. With a few hands and some common decency, throw in a good Samaritan or two and the problem could have been eradicated without public lashings and finger pointing. My family and I are happy to be of help
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 07:17 PM
@ Autumn: Did you write this article or do you think I can't read what was posted to the public in this article? If you wrote this article you as a journalist should be ashamed for not reporting the "FACTS" true and accurate . Property owners have "Rights" not subject to neighborhood compliance, they can do what they want with there property. The key to any complaint is to understand "Contract Law"... Regards, Barry
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Absolutely @Gina, why do people always complain to authorities instead of "Saying" hey can I help you out neighbor? I'll bet dollars to doughnuts no one in this neighborhood ever approached this house and said can I help! People want to bitch & moan about something. The days of help the guy next door are a thing of the past!
sophie aretta September 18, 2012 at 08:05 PM
kris, make sure to keep your finger on the pulse about san ramon as well. no city or town is exempt from this type of situation. san ramon has burglary, theft, drugs, vandalism- all the drama that pleasanton has...as does danville, alamo etc. we live in a great place and these circumstances present themselves in varying degrees no matter where we live. i lived in san ramon for a period of time and there was a major drug operation going on in a house across the street from me- in an affluent neighborhood. it happens...
Kristin Morgan Bianco September 18, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Barry, the article states it was "tagged unsafe by authorities" it does not say it was done by pleasanton pd.
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 08:15 PM
@ Kristen: I guess you skipped the first paragraph of the article which States: "Three people were reportedly removed from an Orangewood Court home tagged unsafe by Pleasanton Police on Sunday night." Nuff said...
Nicole September 18, 2012 at 08:17 PM
I find it hard to believe that one would think this "couldn't" happen in a city like Pleasanton and that it's a result of the economy. I don't know the family and I am not familiar with the house but I'm guessing this is a direct result of a mental condition. I'm not a psychologist either but I can't imagine that anyone "wants" to live in that condition and if they do really understands the depth of the despair that they or their house is in. As far as living in San Ramon - I can speak directly to that as I've been a homeowner in both San Ramon and Pleasanton. San Ramon is a nice place to live as is Pleasanton. Pleasanton has a lot to offer that San Ramon doesn't as far as community, but both places are great to raise families. And to the person who considers Pleasanton a city, I think that's a huge stretch of your imagination. Pleasanton is as almost as far from the a city as one can get in the Bay Area.
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 08:32 PM
@ Nicole: You admit your not familiar with the area but "Assume" the occupants have a mental disorder without any credentials? Save me, please... I truley hope you don't "Vote"...Please take no offense...
timothy September 18, 2012 at 08:33 PM
Sometimes you would be surprised as to WHO lives like a pig. I once lived on Cretline Road where one of the neighbors would neglect their yard so badly there would be insect and pest problems. Dirt areas and a poorly maintained lawn. The owners happened to own a ton of property all over Pleasanton as well as owned a well known business downtown. Every time we walked past that property we felt sorry for those who had to live next door. The owner was so very wealthy, yet nothing was ever done about this property. At least it wasn't a crack house....or was it?
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 08:53 PM
@ Autumn: that's for the update. Here is the problem the City of Pleasanton faces should the "occupants" persue legal action againt the city and by virtue of it's actions will pay through the "Tax Payers" nose for not following the law. By admission of your update the authorities arrested and released two people without charge under the presumtion this home was a "Crack" lab, but the "DEA" confirmed it wasn't, never the less two people were falsely arrested. Under: United States Code Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 13 of Section 242 the authorities are in violation "Deprivation of Right unders Color of Law". This would be a "Slam Case" in any court. The end result will be the "Tax-Payers" pay the cost of the Cities mess up! Sad but true...
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 09:05 PM
I forgot to mention the one "Female" arrested for drug related charges stands to have all charges "Dismissed" as the premise of the local authority being at her residence was to investigate a possible crack house which proved to be inaccurate subject to :United States Code Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 13 of Section 242 the authorities are in violation "Deprivation of Right unders Color of Law". When did it become against the "Law" to come and go as you please from your home at all hours?
Barry Thompson September 18, 2012 at 09:18 PM
@ Timothy, I hear you! The topic to remember if you complain you enter into a "Contract" and you have liabilities by doing so. I once had a neighbor who continuosly filed complaints about the color of my home as it offended him, is now faced with a Civil Rights Liability Under 42 usc 1983. Once the process is complete through the legal system I will own his property as well as have a lien on any "Authority" which participated...
Ann September 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM
I know 1st hand about this property. I do not live on orange wood but have friends who do. I can assure you the owner is not of sound mind. Actually the property from the outside is much better than before. But the inside is unlivable, there is mold, holes in walls and flooring some rooms are inaccessible. This goes beyond neighbor helping neighbor. He comes out in the wee morning hrs (1-2am). Tinkering with his cars or who knows what. Not normal behavior
Lorraine Peters September 19, 2012 at 12:01 AM
The error is with sentence structure not with the facts
kris smith September 19, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Just curious, @Nicole, what do you find that San Ramon doesn't have to offer that Pleasanton does? My friend and I have now made this a topic of discussion, and I want to know my facts before I open my mouth. Lol. And Im curious as to why you think Pleasanton shouldn't be considered a city, as I think Livermore is as far as one can get in the Bay Area.
Pleasanton Mom September 19, 2012 at 02:39 AM
sue, sue, sue...... Tt's the american way. What happened to going to talking to your neighbor to resolve the issue? Does that only apply when it's not about you or that you want to own their property? SMH
Pleasanton Mom September 19, 2012 at 02:40 AM
sue, sue, sue...... SMH again.
Pleasanton Mom September 19, 2012 at 02:44 AM
Did you like want to be a lawyer but couldn't pass the bar or something? Or are you an ambulance chaser with a few too many clients with back pain and emotional distress to sue for? You seem to really want to prove something here as if to compensate for some other shortcoming. Oh Barry, you are so damn smart and we are so lucky you are educating us. And blah, blah, blah. Now will you stop since I'm admitting you are such a smart man and much smarter than anyone else and on and on an on? You've totally proven yourself. No need to continue.
Barry Thompson September 19, 2012 at 05:14 AM
@ Pleasanton Mom: No one needs to be a lawyer to understand the rights everyone has under law. It only takes time to educate ones self as to the application of the law. You might try to do this before entering into a conversation with someone who understands the law. Let me guess based on your posting: Your a democrat, your postings have a touchy feely smell to them, a bit insulting but not mean. A smart person once said: Never have a battle of whits with another person who is unarmed. Your just not educated...
Barry Thompson September 19, 2012 at 05:32 AM
@ Pleasanton Mom: You misunderstand the facts, I have never sued anyone nor do I use the court system to enter in litigation. Once you understand "Contract Law" and the use of "Uniform Commercial Code" the only thing the court system does is to enforce those two systems. No lawyers, no litigation just enforcement of the law. You should really spend some time to educate yourself while surfing the web...
Nicole September 19, 2012 at 05:33 AM
@ Barry - I didn't say I was unfamiliar with the area, just the house and I didn't assume anything, I said I was guessing they had a mental disorder which I think anyone with half a working brain could do too. Its also my guess that you have a hard time making a lot of friends and you always think it's because you're smarter than everyone else, but that's just a guess too. And no offense, but I sincerely hope you don't try to pass a vocabulary or spelling test without some assistance. @ Kris - San Ramon doesn't have a downtown which I think makes all the difference, but outside of tht there isn't much difference, except the weather. San Ramon is a lot cooler and has much more wind than Pleasanton. it may also have alot more new construction, but that's not the area I'm speaking of. Danville has a downtown too, which is great but Danville doesn't have the charm that Pleasanton offers or the diversity. When I think of a city I think of Oakland, San Francisco, Chicago, New York not Pleasanton or Livermore - places where you don't need a car.
Nicole September 19, 2012 at 05:45 AM
@ Barry - I find it somewhat amusing that you are telling somebody that they are uneducated but use the incorrect form of your in your statement and misspell wit! Ding Dong! Go vote Republican :-)
Barry Thompson September 19, 2012 at 05:51 AM
@ Autumn Johnson: I just wanted to thank you for updating the web story to reflect the "Facts" in this story. From your profile your a retired Peace Officer and know the difference between fact and fiction or as they call it "Creative Report Writting". With this inmind I'm surprised the story wasn't written correctly the first time. In life we all learn from our mistakes.
Barry Thompson September 19, 2012 at 05:56 AM
@ Nicole: Yes you got me :) No spell checker on this forum, but the point has been made. The last resort of a desperate person is to point out grammer issues...
Kristin Morgan Bianco September 19, 2012 at 07:10 PM
It's disappointing to see personal attacks here. People are just trying to voice their opinion on the subject at hand. I myself took no offense when I was corrected on my previous comment. Please excuse any errors in my grammer and punctuation use. I'm a paramedic not a writer :)
Autumn Johnson (Editor) September 19, 2012 at 08:54 PM
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